After quite some work, the classes topic has had a complete rewrite. Where before was just a list of arbitrary things is now an informative topic describing official classes.

On top of this, many of the old things listed as classes were not ever classes and caused confusion. They have been removed and put into a topic about occupations for clarity.

So, maybe this can answer some questions people had and put a more concrete meaning to the classes you choose. It will also hopefully help eliminate people choosing classes that no one understands. :lol:

Very sweet update Loth. The difference between classes and occupations was never really addressed before now, and the summaries are very helpful, even to members who have been here longer. Good stuff B)

Good clarification. Nice edit. Thanks Loth. :)

Sweet! I love it Lothy. Good job and thanks ^_^

Cool, nice add :w00t:

Wow, I like the new updates. ^_^

Thank you very much.

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Awesome.....

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This is really great, especially for us new members who have no idea what we are doing. :)

:lol: I suppose I was confused when I submitted my profile... hrmm looks like I'll have to do a little tweaking too! :D

That's awesome. What about us cavaliers though? We're not really paladins. :unsure: Are we just not cool enough to get onto the list? :-( Or maybe I'm just too original for you. :shifty:

Looks like my class went *poof*

Nice update though, it does indeed help the new characters to see where they fit it ^^

ohh i can but down educator and scolar as samarins occupations now

Gotta love D&D -hugs his manuals-

Looks like I'm going to have to go back and edit both of my characters profiles as I obviosly was confused when putting them together. Nice update, now I must figure out my changes.

Don't overlook the first statement. It says you can choose a class that is not listed. I, for instance, am a cavalier and sinner. So the only reason you would need to edit your characters is if to change the words "class" to "occupation."

Well, really though, you should be choosing from the list of classes unless you are simply calling the class by another name. I only really said you can choose something not on the list to cover myself if I forgot something important.

Ah, so, we can have as many occupations as we want? That's nice, though I doubt it'll reduce the number of assassins in Arda. :wacko:

Nice update, either way. Clarification is always good.

I don't think it's feasible to have more than maybe two occupations! :lol: You should generally only have one job. :unsure:

Argh! Assassins!!!! uh....I mean.... :r heh, glad I changed Nafalen (or as Loth calls me Naffeh) to be a total Weapon's Master.

That doesn't stop a few people I know from doing it.

Oh, does that mean I can't be a Sinner? I assume cavalier is fine seeing as it is so close to paladin.

Being someone who sins isn't a class, classes are about what your role in battle is. And I'm not even sure what a cavalier is, if you're going to use it, it'd just be your own personal name for an existing class. What does a cavalier do? Do they use weapons or magic or both? Etc.

I picked a custom class and then linked to the Wikipedia page for the D&D class that I adapted it from. Is this an acceptable explaination? :unsure:

I guess so, as long as there's some kind of explanation about what it is that matches the kind of class descriptions in Arda. I trust Wiki's D&D stuff. :yes:

Hoo-rah!




Thanks for clarifying, Loth. ^_^

I'm unsure on what a character who doesn't fight (Like the Narrator) would have as a class... :unsure:

He doesn't fight, but he might kinda hit people with his staff or maybe slit someone's throat as self defence if needed. Would there be a class for this kinda thing, or a class for someone who uses minions/followers to fight for him?

An 'aristocrat' class or 'noble' might work. I'd say philosopher, but that's more of a profession.

If you do not fight / use magic / steal, then you do not really have a class. I don't know The Narrator very well, but he seems almost like a bard to me. :unsure: Does he sing / perform / entertain or anything? That might work well for him. I dunno! :lol:

I'll just change the class to an occupation then. :)

EDIT: Oh, he performs and writes scripts but he doesn't sing or play instruments.

Cavalier: Representing the ultimate in mounted warfare, the cavalier is the quintessential knight in shining armor. The charge of the cavalier is among the most devastating offensive weapons any culture can hope to field. Most cavaliers belong to the upper social class or nobility of a society. The cavalier dedicates his life to the service of a higher authority, such as a noble or sovereign, deity, military, or religious order, or a special cause. His is a hereditary honor that comes with the price of lifelong service to monarch, country, or other object or entity.

I don't know if this is supposed to go here, but this is what a cavalier is and does.

The class is from D&D itself.

If it's an offical D&D thing, then I'll accept it. I might even add it to the list. I only put the most basic ones in, and didn't delve into prestige classes (for obvious reasons) and other specialized things. If you find links to more stuff from D&D, especially on wikipedia, it'd be nice to see those links so I can write it up into our list.

Hexblade (adapted to Shadowblade because that sounds cooler)

A Hexblade is an unusual class, that combines arcane magic with combat ability. They are able to cast arcane spells while wearing armour, but are unlike bards as they are more combat bent. Therefore, some have drawn comparisons to arcane paladins. All are either evil or neutral, and never good. Hexblades are basically self taught, sometimes they receive training from other arcane casters before beginning to adventure. Due to their inherent evil, hexblades typically adventure for power, prestige, wealth or something similar, almost always for personal gain. They have no particular bent towards law or chaos. Typically, hexblades are not very religious, instead relying on their own strange powers. Hexblades may worship evil dieties if they choose.

Most hexblades are humans or half-elves, as is the case with sorcerers. Gnomes who enjoy a more sinister twist to their magic may become hexblades. Elves who wish to take a similar path to that of a hexblade are more likely to become a fighter/wizard multiclass, or a Duskblade. Halflings and dwarves are too good of heart to regularly become hexblades. Often, hexblades become leaders or advisors in the communities of more savage races. The hexblade, as of yet, is not the favoured class of any race.

Well I took that from my D&D manual, Complete Warrior, 3.5rd Edition

Not all the classes listed on the internet and most of them are hard to find.

But I can write them out, and post them somewhere.

That'd be cool. If you have any class suggestions / descriptions, you can put them in the suggestions forum. :)

I don't like the D&D definition of a cavalier. A cavalier is basically a calvary unit. It is less knight like than a paladin, usually choosing lighter armor (ie leather) for mobility. They also are not as magically adept. And unlike a paladin, they do not serve some god (although they can be religious). They usually serve their country or maybe special families.

Sweet,

Now I have more things to read hehehe. :rofl:

@ Krystal: The usage of the term originates from the French word "chevalier", meaning knight. So you can't really tell me that a cavalier is less of an knight.

Chivalry is a word derived from cavalier and is a term related to the medieval institution of knighthood. It is usually associated with ideals of knightly virtues, honour and courtly love.

Yea, Vor'angkoo is correct about the Knight/ Cavalier issue. The different names just come from different places/ periods of time. Many movies put the two together in the same place and time and then stereotype them separately like Krystal said above.

Although there is room for argument. You could say a midevil knight from the 8th century would lose to a cavalier from the 4th century due to less training in certain areas because of advancement in technology and less need for superior arms training. For Arda's purposes, however, I see them as the same.

Just because they come from the same word does not make them the same. Their roles were pretty much the same, but their cultural backgrounds were different. The Musketeers for example were cavaliers. They filled the role of knights during their time, but you wouldn't call them knights.

I'm sure there are better places for you to have your debate than this announcement. :poke: